Comments on Bannable Offenses: Story Time

The original stories are pretty sweet. See, the or...

2009-03-25T18:22:00.000-07:00

The original stories are pretty sweet. See, the original Hansel and Gretel were constantly left out in the woods by their evil step-mother (there's a ton of evil step mothers), then they find the candy house, then the witch force feeds one of them to fatten em up, then the other one kills the witch to save them both. Then they run home to daddy.

I wasn't entirely sure where the moral was. Probably that it's okay to hate your step-mother.

P.S.: The original Cinderella has self-mutilation.

If you look real hard you can see down Angelique's...

2009-03-25T18:07:00.000-07:00

If you look real hard you can see down Angelique's shirt in her picture.....

Mmmmm Sleeping Beauty. These days if you want a pr...

2009-03-24T17:44:00.000-07:00

Mmmmm Sleeping Beauty. These days if you want a proper fairy tale written for adults, look no further... forget dredging up Grimm's or anything before it, while they're awesome, you wanna see Sleeping Beauty updated to a more oldfashioned tale... pick up Anne Rice's version. *laughs*

This sounded like something Carlos Mencia would st...

2009-03-24T16:51:00.000-07:00

This sounded like something Carlos Mencia would steal for a bit.

Yeah, Fairy tales didn't begin as being meant ...

2009-03-24T11:26:00.000-07:00

Yeah, Fairy tales didn't begin as being meant for children. They were simple because they were intended for relatively uneducated peasants - but adults nonetheless to form a sort of nationalist concept of "shared history" and commonality among separate territories that would later be unified into nations (like Germany for instance)
Because the became widely known they were passed on generation to generation - and at increasingly younger ages, which is how they were toned down and tamed slightly over time, but they remain brutal (and they were brutal so they would be interesting to harsh living peasants originally)

.... I'm a literature major >.> Yeah. Way too educational. Try Tolkien.

Go watch some Looney Tunes. Everything we enjoyed ...

2009-03-24T06:27:00.000-07:00

Go watch some Looney Tunes.
Everything we enjoyed as a kid are incredibly f-ed up.
But we turned out alright.

Posting under correct usernameMy Granddad gave...

2009-03-24T05:35:00.000-07:00

**Posting under correct username**
My Granddad gave me a book of the original Brothers Grimm Fairy Tales and Aesop's Fables... when I was 10. My dad was most displeased by this. It's still one of my favorite books.

Yeah, they're morbid, and alot of times inappropriate, but its an early life lesson?
**Stupid GMail.**

My Granddad gave me a book of the original Brother...

2009-03-24T05:33:00.000-07:00

My Granddad gave me a book of the original Brothers Grimm Fairy Tales and Aesop's Fables... when I was 10. My dad was most displeased by this. It's still one of my favorite books.

Yeah, they're morbid, and alot of times inappropriate, but its an early life lesson?

Kats-It wasn't so much that they tried to inoculat...

2009-03-23T14:03:00.000-07:00

Kats-
It wasn't so much that they tried to inoculate themselves with posies, but the posies would be odorous enough that keeping them on you would overcome most of the stench of the sick and dead.
yeah.

Of course - just for fun look into nursery rhymes ...

2009-03-23T10:33:00.000-07:00

Of course - just for fun look into nursery rhymes - I had an English professor who loved to talk about the stories behind those cute little rhymes.....like "Ring around the rosie" - it was apparently about the plague, with a "rosie" as a symptom, "pocket full of posies" being herbs people carried to innoculate themselves from it and "ashes, ashes we all fall down" refering to burning the bodies.....he was such a cheery yet creepy fellow....

See if you can find a really early edition of Litt...

2009-03-23T10:09:00.000-07:00

See if you can find a really early edition of Little Red Riding Hood.

Or Sleeping Beauty...you know, the original versions where she's woken up by her newborn twins suckling at her breast, with no prince in sight.

Yup. That means Prince "Charming" did exactly what you think he did.

Believe it or not, most fairy tails were not origi...

2009-03-23T09:57:00.000-07:00

Believe it or not, most fairy tails were not originally written for children. They were written for adult entertainment, back in the royal courts of kingdoms everywhere.

That's why if you go back to the original stories, there's actually quite a bit of violence and nudity in 'fairytales.' Don't believe me? See if you can find a really early edition of Little Red Riding Hood. Go ahead....but don't say I didn't warn you first.

Since haivng a child myself I have noticed that mo...

2009-03-23T08:53:00.000-07:00

Since haivng a child myself I have noticed that most classic literature is entirely fucked up. Even the older Disney movies are pretty messed up. From child neglect and animal abuse, smoking and getting shitfaced (what my husband refers to as "20 minutes of acid dropping", in Dumbo).

M- giving a child a bath, getting jammies on and reading a book is a nice bedtime schedule. Baby learns that it's bedtime when these things happen and it helps them wind down and fall asleep easier.

I dare you to name one Final Fantasy where you did...

2009-03-23T06:56:00.000-07:00

I dare you to name one Final Fantasy where you didn't go into someones house and stole an item, or into a castle and took what was in treasure chests.

But then again, you will probably say that the fairy tales were read to the game designers when they were young and that would explain everything.

The thing you have to remember about fairy tales i...

2009-03-23T05:40:00.000-07:00

The thing you have to remember about fairy tales is that most of them weren't originally meant for children.

They were written by adults for adults.. normally during long dreary winters back before we had electricity or gaming systems to entertain us all.

Sure, they've watered them down for kids but.. even watered down these stories are pretty violent.. always will be. Hell, so are a lot of nursery rhymes for that matter.

Ahhh the storys of old.The same goes for the nurse...

2009-03-23T04:53:00.000-07:00

Ahhh the storys of old.
The same goes for the nursery rhymes you were told as a kid.
My neice recently told me this one:

"Mary had a little lamb it's fleece all white and whispy, along comes foot and mouth disease and now it's black and crispy"

She didn't understand what foot and mouth was but she found it hillarious that a sheep gets burned up for contracting it....the world is messed up!

I never really thought about fairy tales in depth ...

2009-03-23T04:34:00.000-07:00

I never really thought about fairy tales in depth until now.. O.o That's just crazy!!

TV for children is just as bad imo these days, I remember growing up with Tom and Jerry, Duck Tales, etc. They were great shows!

@M - no kids of my own, but several nieces/nephews...

2009-03-23T03:51:00.000-07:00

@M - no kids of my own, but several nieces/nephews...every day bath is good for them because they run around a lot, and get sweaty, etc. Especially in the summer, they get sweaty at the park, where there is a lot of dirt.

original post - I find Grimm's fairy tales, even watered down, quite disturbing myself, and wonder how they got to be widely accepted as children's stories...but I still love the stories.

I've never understood why parents bath kids every ...

2009-03-23T02:37:00.000-07:00

I've never understood why parents bath kids every day. I'm not ignorant, but i am a kidless adult and I've never understood this. Do they get exceptionally dirty to the point where a wash won't do?

Oh, and OT, yer - fariy tales are grim business.

Much as I'd love to say that the intention of the ...

2009-03-23T01:51:00.000-07:00

Much as I'd love to say that the intention of the Ugly Duckling story is more along the lines of pointing out that someone who's ugly will have other redeeming qualities, let's be honest, little kids don't know HOW to read that far into it.

And keep in mind, Dave's probably reading some rea...

2009-03-22T21:18:00.000-07:00

And keep in mind, Dave's probably reading some really bowdlerized disneyfied versions.

You really wanna get messed up, read the real Brothers Grimm versions. and keep in mind that the Grimms toned THOSE down.

The Juniper Tree is enough to give nightmares for years.

giggles hysterically Yes, most fairy tales were ...

2009-03-22T21:08:00.000-07:00

*giggles hysterically* Yes, most fairy tales were extremely messed up in some way. That's why I haven't read most of them to my son. Nice to see someone else noticed!

Dora carries a backpack for all the loot she steal...

2009-03-22T20:20:00.000-07:00

Dora carries a backpack for all the loot she steals.
She has a map to the exact locations.
Swiper taught her everything she knows.