tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post6875097766997600528..comments2026-07-19T01:59:33.952-07:00Goblin Smithyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06988847269710312122noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-54360455218049192852009-07-09T17:21:27.211-07:002009-07-09T17:21:27.211-07:00I&#39;m a 21 year old female who plays videogames from time to time (god, I loved Mass Effect), shoots high-caliper rifles, and has an interest in cars. I read her article along with another article along the same lines about &quot;man-childs&quot;. One. I&#39;m offended. Truly. Two, she&#39;s saying that, as a women, I want everything she wants (see: no life).<br /><br />It&#39;s obvious this women doesn&#39;t understand the economic and social pressure on today&#39;s society. Back when she was growing up, having a highschool deploma was all you needed. Now, it means nothing, so you spend more years in school and in a crappy job to pay for your schooling. Settling down and having kids -- &quot;maturing&quot;, as she would put it -- is not feasibly possible... unless, of course, you actually wanted to end up unhappy and broke, not only destroying your life, but that of your family as well.<br /><br />Besides. I thought she was a feminist. What ever happened to supporting personal choice?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07690849606046174280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-91842267059755498592009-02-16T15:38:00.000-08:002009-02-16T15:38:00.000-08:00I'm a soldier in the US Army and 18 years old. After a long hard day of manly soldier things I sit down and enjoy some video games before going to sleep. So this makes me a man-child yes?Connaughtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10677375013795463244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-64824297135854894482008-09-03T21:24:00.000-07:002008-09-03T21:24:00.000-07:00I would have left a nice comment involving what I really thought on that nut job's page... If I didn't have to sign up to do it. Don't worry about it Dave, I think she has the equivalent intellect of a stump grinder.Peevilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17001230207873962620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-30823073903694391602008-02-29T09:04:00.000-08:002008-02-29T09:04:00.000-08:00I salute you for this Dave. Don't apologize for being so topical either, I agree with previous comments that it might be interesting if you made more posts about these types of issues that gamers face.Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14260352054991415972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-80254996351059754992008-02-16T12:45:00.000-08:002008-02-16T12:45:00.000-08:00"For whatever reason, adolescence appears to be the young man's default state, proving what anthropologists have discovered in cultures everywhere: It is marriage and children that turn boys into men."<BR/><BR/>What anthropologists? Where? She needs to learn to cite things. :(<BR/><BR/>And honestly, using Knocked Up and fictional books as examples? Does that work? :\<BR/>This is just a bad argument even if it had a point (which it does not). D:<BR/><BR/>God, I hate feminists.Lady Neptunehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08284258380088372923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-78618186269198563912008-02-09T16:55:00.000-08:002008-02-09T16:55:00.000-08:00Wow she was awful. Most of my freinds spend a lot of their free evenings vegging in front of a TV. I prefer video games. I think that makes me a more active person. I have the whole marriage, kid and employment thing under my belt and I still play video games after the youngin goes to bed. I dont think that makes me less of an adult. I'm not sure what she wants me to do with my free time to make me more adult-like but she sounds like a bore.Alison the Amazing Thiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06577407983620554060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-44466766645400457562008-02-08T10:02:00.000-08:002008-02-08T10:02:00.000-08:00Wait Dave! Although it sounds so incredibly stupid this article. Try going with it! If the world can be build on generalized buzz words, then that means we get to play video games all day and watch NFL with all our immature buddies. The wife or girlfriend on the other hand will be the one who cleans the house and cooks us food.<BR/><BR/>For the love of god Dave, we must support her in that! She acknowledges that we like to be lazy and/or don't give a damn about what she thinks. Thats like a girl who'd never be able to tell you what to do!Zephyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11827144733653825133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-73930336976694872182008-02-05T12:43:00.000-08:002008-02-05T12:43:00.000-08:00Great points. I'd read the article. After the first half, my psychological background said this:<BR/><BR/>I don't take much time to think about sociological changes happening in our current society, but do find it fascinating. My take: there is more leisure time because life is generally easier. You don't have to live 10 to a house anymore, but if you do, your disposable income rises dramatically (thus frats and roommates). However, living with just your created family is financially draining. Plus, people (men especially, who have been traditionally free of caretaking of home and children) have always had "the club" to escape to. Think of hunting safaris or gentleman's smoking clubs with cigars and gambling, think of saloons, think of what president Eisenhower would do for recreation. Maybe he played Gin and drank Scotch. I dunno. But I bet he did something in a place generally free of women. I think the main "problem" now, as women see it, is these activities take place in a place not free of women - for women have invaded all the men's places of sanctuary - and they're playing Xbox in their living rooms instead of some social place. This in view of the women. I'm sure a lot of "work" men claimed to do was actually socializing. Now that its more in the face, it's more irritating.<BR/><BR/>But after finishing the article (stupid job got in the way of finishing it in one setting), I found it vapid and overgeneralizing. Ahem, girl gamer with a Masters Degree in Counseling. She's a bitter old bitch who needs to get over herself. She lost sight of the point she was trying to make midway through and should have stayed her course instead of exposing herself for the silly hurt old bag she turned out to be.semelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15221927952135264421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-51344231289108995972008-02-05T07:34:00.000-08:002008-02-05T07:34:00.000-08:00Crap. Um... Sorry to spam the comments with the same post three times. The first two times it didn't go through. Not sure how it managed to get in there multiple times. Sorry, Dave!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04889393298623814050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-46030532847440135362008-02-04T17:35:00.000-08:002008-02-04T17:35:00.000-08:00apparently someone was dumped by a gamer..forwantofwingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07007859785077142504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-58509362009236744242008-02-04T12:02:00.000-08:002008-02-04T12:02:00.000-08:0039-year-old female gamer, married to a 36-year-old male gamer. We have a child who's almost 4 (who has been watching us play FFXI her whole life), a house (complete with mortgage), full-time jobs, and a good life.<BR/><BR/>I'm guessing the article's author didn't have much time for "fun" (read "drinking & partying") in college -- she was apparently in too much of a hurry to get her pantsuit.<BR/><BR/>I've known plenty of immature females -- I even was one for a while. If men (and women) can get away with having fun for a while before getting serious about "real life," more power to them... er... us.<BR/><BR/>Nice to see a somewhat "serious" post from you, [GM] Dave. You are talented.Shaydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02164702507150423345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-412427865031283052008-02-04T11:20:00.000-08:002008-02-04T11:20:00.000-08:00So, if I'm reading this woman's article correctly, her theory is as follows: "If you're a male, and you're having fun, you're obviously immature." ...huh.<BR/><BR/>Dave, I'm a fan of your blogs and more than one dragon-related death has made me smile, but it's this post, this one, that would make me buy you a drink. Rock on, sir.Mike Ridleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07994241902760544565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-41551323909008271542008-02-04T10:54:00.001-08:002008-02-04T10:54:00.001-08:00I'm 32, female, and a gamer, and I'm with you all the way. Gamer men? Immature? Sure, some are. And the same can definitely be said for women - of both the gaming and shopping varieties (anyone who has ever seen a woman throw a bitch-fit over a pair of pumps or a sweater not cut just-so can attest to that).<BR/><BR/>My first husband was an immature gamer. He was definitely a big kid who gave very little thought to any personal responsibility. My second husband - married since June of '05 - is a gamer and most times is one of the most mature people I know (after all, we all have our moments). It's all about the priorities. Gamers have them, too, and they're not always focused on the month-long wait for that rare armor drop.<BR/><BR/>The woman who wrote that article is showing only one thing: that she knows nothing about the gaming community and the people who are in it. As you say in your next post (I'm reading these a bit late and sort of backwards): we're not all swearing twelve-year-olds. I remember Space Invaders. I still own my old (working!) Atari. I still kick ass at Donkey Kong and Pitfall. I spent yesterday afternoon working most of the way through the Ferai world on the PS2 game Primal (laugh if you will, but I love it)...<BR/><BR/>...But that was before stopping to cuddle/wrestle with my daughter (she'll be 2 this August) on the couch for a few hours before bedtime. That was before making sure she had enough to eat and was getting plenty of exercise/fun before taking her to her room. That was before changing her diaper one last time, making her a bottle, giving her a kiss and tucking her in. That was before I told her I loved her and wished her sweet dreams.<BR/><BR/>And all that was before my husband (one of the "child-men" in that woman's ignorant article) joined me in doing those things for our little girl - who is the most important thing in his life and the center of his (our) universe.<BR/><BR/>All gamer men, immature? I have to disagree. That woman is blind.<BR/><BR/>And on another note: I've seen one pink DS. It was purchased by a male gamer here at the office because he thought it'd be "funny" to play on it. *Shrug* Just sayin'. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04889393298623814050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-31393192881494330132008-02-04T10:54:00.000-08:002008-02-04T10:54:00.000-08:00I'm 32, female, and a gamer, and I'm with you all the way. Gamer men? Immature? Sure, some are. And the same can definitely be said for women - of both the gaming and shopping varieties (anyone who has ever seen a woman throw a bitch-fit over a pair of pumps or a sweater not cut just-so can attest to that).<BR/><BR/>My first husband was an immature gamer. He was definitely a big kid who gave very little thought to any personal responsibility. My second husband - married since June of '05 - is a gamer and most times is one of the most mature people I know (after all, we all have our moments). It's all about the priorities. Gamers have them, too, and they're not always focused on the month-long wait for that rare armor drop.<BR/><BR/>The woman who wrote that article is showing only one thing: that she knows nothing about the gaming community and the people who are in it. As you say in your next post (I'm reading these a bit late and sort of backwards): we're not all swearing twelve-year-olds. I remember Space Invaders. I still own my old (working!) Atari. I still kick ass at Donkey Kong and Pitfall. I spent yesterday afternoon working most of the way through the Ferai world on the PS2 game Primal (laugh if you will, but I love it)...<BR/><BR/>...But that was before stopping to cuddle/wrestle with my daughter (she'll be 2 this August) on the couch for a few hours before bedtime. That was before making sure she had enough to eat and was getting plenty of exercise/fun before taking her to her room. That was before changing her diaper one last time, making her a bottle, giving her a kiss and tucking her in. That was before I told her I loved her and wished her sweet dreams.<BR/><BR/>And all that was before my husband (one of the "child-men" in that woman's ignorant article) joined me in doing those things for our little girl - who is the most important thing in his life and the center of his (our) universe.<BR/><BR/>All gamer men, immature? I have to disagree. That woman is blind.<BR/><BR/>And on another note: I've seen one pink DS. It was purchased by a male gamer here at the office because he thought it'd be "funny" to play on it. *Shrug* Just sayin'. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04889393298623814050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-1608840008566506582008-02-04T10:53:00.000-08:002008-02-04T10:53:00.000-08:00I'm 32, female, and a gamer, and I'm with you all the way. Gamer men? Immature? Sure, some are. And the same can definitely be said for women - of both the gaming and shopping varieties (anyone who has ever seen a woman throw a bitch-fit over a pair of pumps or a sweater not cut just-so can attest to that).<BR/><BR/>My first husband was an immature gamer. He was definitely a big kid who gave very little thought to any personal responsibility. My second husband - married since June of '05 - is a gamer and most times is one of the most mature people I know (after all, we all have our moments). It's all about the priorities. Gamers have them, too, and they're not always focused on the month-long wait for that rare armor drop.<BR/><BR/>The woman who wrote that article is showing only one thing: that she knows nothing about the gaming community and the people who are in it. As you say in your next post (I'm reading these a bit late and sort of backwards): we're not all swearing twelve-year-olds. I remember Space Invaders. I still own my old (working!) Atari. I still kick ass at Donkey Kong and Pitfall. I spent yesterday afternoon working most of the way through the Ferai world on the PS2 game Primal (laugh if you will, but I love it)...<BR/><BR/>...But that was before stopping to cuddle/wrestle with my daughter (she'll be 2 this August) on the couch for a few hours before bedtime. That was before making sure she had enough to eat and was getting plenty of exercise/fun before taking her to her room. That was before changing her diaper one last time, making her a bottle, giving her a kiss and tucking her in. That was before I told her I loved her and wished her sweet dreams.<BR/><BR/>And all that was before my husband (one of the "child-men" in that woman's ignorant article) joined me in doing those things for our little girl - who is the most important thing in his life and the center of his (our) universe.<BR/><BR/>All gamer men, immature? I have to disagree. That woman is blind.<BR/><BR/>And on another note: I've seen one pink DS. It was purchased by a male gamer here at the office because he thought it'd be "funny" to play on it. *Shrug* Just sayin'. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04889393298623814050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-87443967932118129212008-02-04T09:52:00.000-08:002008-02-04T09:52:00.000-08:00Salute!!! [GM]Dave & Davism!!<BR/>I am a 40 Female gamer, I am able to play and converse with friends from college and new ones - while abusing bunnies. Isn't what life is about?? Sounds like that woman got her ass kicked in Pong as a child and never got over it.<BR/>or she needs to play FFXI instead of WoW!Staxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03574267449110237089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-75635795598178816712008-02-04T07:16:00.000-08:002008-02-04T07:16:00.000-08:00These... why do these people even get this crap published? Who actually listens to this crap?<BR/><BR/>...<BR/><BR/>Never mind, I don't want to know. She just needs a good dragoning.Midnight Voyagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16113203019272361134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-85220073992445411522008-02-04T01:41:00.000-08:002008-02-04T01:41:00.000-08:00Straight, to the point, and hilarious...good show, Dave.Freedom IIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02393733594931074699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-9731426741372640012008-02-03T23:39:00.000-08:002008-02-03T23:39:00.000-08:00Yay for pink DSes!!!pinkiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14717902292601162078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-71750353569694714202008-02-03T21:54:00.000-08:002008-02-03T21:54:00.000-08:00I laughed so hard reading this. This woman is an IDIOT!Xatticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648409663917165057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-52981013642006082332008-02-03T18:16:00.000-08:002008-02-03T18:16:00.000-08:00I'm having a really hard time not basting her on here as I can't help but wonder <I>why</I> she would write such an article. Perhaps she dated one of her supposed "child-men" and he prefered spending time with his games more than her?<BR/><BR/>P.S. I was clued into this site about a week ago and now I can't stop reading. Me and a few of my FFXI mates quote you all the time, now.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the amusement!Zeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12631657938172961037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-28973959944322239942008-02-03T18:08:00.000-08:002008-02-03T18:08:00.000-08:00Guys, [GM]Dave don't be so mean with the writer, consider how really poor <BR/>is she, been in the middle of 30's reading her "Interesting drama" and got<BR/>bored of it, next to a man that is having the hell of fun playing with his<BR/>DS during the lunch time and talking about his funny story of the last night<BR/>party.<BR/><BR/>Consider the fact, in the name of "Normal Life" she need to endure day by<BR/>day a boring, nonsense life while looking at another people(smart people, like us)<BR/>that threw away the social ego and enjoyed the life in the best way we <BR/>found(call it video games, or whatever makes you happy).<BR/><BR/>And in the top of that she need to spend 3-4 hours of her life writing and<BR/>article to attack that happy people and justify her nonsense, boring existence<BR/>in the name of "Interesting drama" that she couldn't even finished because as<BR/>well got bored.<BR/><BR/>I meet my wife in the game and we have been almost 3 years together<BR/>we love the game and enjoy the fun together, I don't see how that can be called<BR/>immature, but well as [GM]Dave says, there is not way to help some people. =D<BR/><BR/>Great entry [DM]Dave, i really enjoy your work a lot v^^d.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03087524540658608797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-11081813942129643172008-02-03T13:08:00.000-08:002008-02-03T13:08:00.000-08:00I found the article interesting -- I know a few gamers/RPGers who seem to be stuck in permanent adolescence...er, and a couple of them are married, so you can't argue that marriage somehow makes the man mature. <BR/><BR/>Jeebus bloody christ -- for that matter, my brother's married, with kids, and has piled himself into lots of debt...well, I cannot call him "mature" by any stretch of the imagination. Nor his wife, for that matter.<BR/><BR/>What you said, Dave.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07782405276456250637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-47216315802768889552008-02-03T12:20:00.000-08:002008-02-03T12:20:00.000-08:00It's Sex in the City in article format!<BR/><BR/>If her need to breed wasn't so desperate, I'm pretty sure she'ld switch teams.Reqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02147723929932135137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25324432.post-38977427090529442332008-02-03T11:26:00.000-08:002008-02-03T11:26:00.000-08:00That article was the worst thing I've ever read, the writer is obviously retarted and should be fed to Jormy.<BR/><BR/>Dave's my new hero. Sorry Chuck Norris, you're now number two.Nalothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04662519143996667624noreply@blogger.com